Sorry you’re having so much trouble hearing other points of view, Rush, “the issue of whether or not we SHOULD have welfare for children (that we don't create) is a separate issue, one I'll be glad to discuss another time.”
The real issue is how and why public services are essential, and the ways in which reforms are necessary, is very complex, and I made it clear I am more than happy to discuss it, but put it off for another time.
Your misrepresentation of what I rational caring Americans say and feel is yet another example of you not engaging honestly.
Again, an example of how bullies get hostile and angry when other Americans choose not to engage at exactly the time and manner of their demanding dictates.
But anyway, Rush, you are already off to a very poor start, referring to welfare benefits as “entitlements.”
Social Security - a return on what people have paid in - is an entitlement.
Benefits for retired and/or injured military - compensation promised to induce enlistment - is an entitlement.
Interest on the public debt - payments as terms of loans (U.S. Bonds) - is an entitlement.
WELFARE IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT.
It is a benefit.
There is a difference.
Being accepted for a BENEFIT on an equal basis with everyone else IF YOU MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS, is an entitlement.
The BENEFIT itself is NOT AN ENTITLEMENT - it can be reduced or even canceled outright, as long as such handling is the same for all.
We choose to grant welfare as a benefit to individuals that benefits society as a whole, in an effort to preserve families as a proactive measure for public order rather than a reactive one.
We are not required to do so.
The subject is a whole new dimensions and, frankly, you have not demonstrated a serious ability to deal with it. There are many reasons to continue such BENEFITS (not entitlements). There are also many legitimate concerns, and many areas where reforms are called for.
Tuesday, September 8, 2009
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